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Posted - 2008.01.23 01:15:00 -
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I regret to inform our investors that BSAC suffer its first corporation theft. Approximately two nights ago, Josephine Dirt stole several ships that were freely available to our corp members for general purpose and clean out one of our headquarters corp equipment and modules hangar. Total lost to our members was about 90,000,000 ISK and about 110,000,000 ISK to BSACÆs newest venture.
I really hope ccp steps up and give corporations some ways to combat corp theft. As it stands there is nothing I can do to recover the loss.
BSAC Mineral Market Manipulation (MinMa) Information Desk |

Block Ukx
KDM Corp Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2008.01.23 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: Minerva Vulcan Well... there is.
It's called roles, and being careful who you give them to and what you make readily accessable to anyone.
He didnÆt have any roles, just access to the hangars with ships, equipment, and ammo.
ItÆs kind of pointless to run a corporation and not give members hangar access. The arrangement we have is very useful to all of our members. However, is vulnerable to a bad apple.
BSAC Mineral Market Manipulation (MinMa) Information Desk |

Block Ukx
KDM Corp Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2008.01.23 02:51:00 -
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Originally by: Minerva Vulcan You still control what you put and keep into the hangers, and what you find acceptable to potentially lose. (This is EVE, after all.)
No I donÆt. Members were adding equipment on an as needed basis for other members to use. It is a nice environment that encourages mutual collaboration, where people can do things together as a group; a corporation. And I donÆt believe in micromanaging the corporation.
The current system hinders corporation growth and encourages distrust among members. I donÆt know what ccp should do, but I know this part of the game is completely unbalanced.
BSAC Mineral Market Manipulation (MinMa) Information Desk |

Block Ukx
KDM Corp Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2008.01.23 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
You have the tools to stop someone from stealing...
No, you don't.
This post is to tell investors that a corp theft has occurred.
BSAC Mineral Market Manipulation (MinMa) Information Desk |

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Posted - 2008.01.23 03:40:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle You absolutely 100% do have the ability to prevent theft. You chose to make items available. You chose to let that individual access those items. You chose to not use the tools at your disposal.
No, you don't.
What is the purpose of a corp hangar? A copr hangar is there for members to share corporation resources. Once an item is share by the corp is completly vulnerable to theft. Therfore, you don't have any control over corp theft.
BSAC Mineral Market Manipulation (MinMa) Information Desk |

Block Ukx
KDM Corp Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2008.01.23 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Minerva Vulcan Just have the community that is your corp members donate like they were before and get stocks back up.
Yes, we will re-stock again. However, the moral in the corp is very low at the present time, and knowing that they canÆt do anything about it does not help.
BSAC Mineral Market Manipulation (MinMa) Information Desk |

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Posted - 2008.01.24 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Nebuchadnezzar I What confuses me about this is - what exactly were the assets stolen that belong to investors?
I mean surely your general membership does not need access to those? Isnt your latest venture mineral market manipulation?
He was going to help me with certain aspect of the mineral market manipulation venture. The deal I offered him was worth much more than 110 M, so I was very puzzle when he decided to steal.
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